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I think I figured out how to post that conversation...let me do that real quick. Bold is Joe, italics is me.

hey no problem
sorry, trillian died on me
ah
yeah sex doesn't freak me out
I don't get to talk about it with too many people so....
you're free to say whatever
so what are your views on the subject? how far do you feel is acceptable? and what's more important to you? the emotional relationship or the physical relationship?
I think that... you should kiss the girl when the pastor tells you too
I think you should court
I think a physical relationship can be less damaging than an emotional one
but thats not to say that physical stuff doesn't matter
like holding hands... I mean
thats something that our culture took and ran with
I don't want to sound like an over-protective parent here but
thats just kinda how I feel about it
I think its fine to have female friends... just watch yourself and watch her
don't get in too far when you can't back it up
you?
hmm....first off, is it alright with you if I put this post into my blog? I'm pretty much going to write the same things I'm writing here, so I don't have to repeat myself.
yeah yeah
its cool
okay, let me see here...One: have you ever read The Five Love Languages? the five are gifts, quality time, words of affirmation, physical touch, and acts of service. a love language is how people receive love, or how they best receive it, what makes them feel most loved. Me, I'm a physical touch person. I know you think that most guys would say that, but I've given it plenty of thought. So, thusly
no I have not read that
but keep goin
relationships for me could get a little tricky, because my psychological need for touch in a relationship would get in the way of good intentions. allowing for that, my standards are a bit looser than yours. hugging and cuddling are great, that's pretty much all I need....if a girl wants to kiss me (I would never, I have sworn this, never be the one to give the first kiss), before I let her,
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I'd have to know for completely sure that she really loves me...and not just surface love, I mean true love. Touch from girls that are given without love, I can't tell you how bad that hurts me, because I want so bad for it to come from love. I'm getting better at not taking it the wrong way and just accepting it for what it is, but if before I let someone go as far as kissing, I want to know
right
you gotta have proof
I'm with ya there
beyond a doubt that I love them, and they love me. as for the absolute farthest I'd go is making out.....and within marriage, I believe in pretty much no bounds....so long as both consent to it, it's fine.
so..
you are opposed to sex outside of wedlock correct?
yes
just checkin
so if I read this right...
what you're against is mindless flirtation
no?
yes....a little more than that.....I believe that for a relationship to be successful, it must be, as I told brian earlier, the emotional part of the relationship should be as grounded and anchored as 2000 tons of steel, before you get serious physically...especially for someone like me, because I can't separate touch from love....that's why the one thing that will absolutely make me loose my
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temper is if someone hits me, don't care who it is, if they're not playing around, they're gettin it back
so you have to have the emotional foundation to build the physical-ness on?
yes
ah
thats a good position...
I mean... not to sound like I missed everything
I think you've thought about this alot huh?
:D
yeah.....course this is all in theory....never really had the opportunity to put it into practice....well, yeah, I have, and shamed to say I bombed it.....it was with Nikki, and I didn't really love her, but she loved me, and I guess the way I was feeling that night was take what I can get, it was durring the church progressive dinner, where each course is at different houses, and we kissed some b
between stops, and when I dropped her off, we were practically making out in her driveway.....I wish I hadn't done that, hopefully, maybe, I'll have the opportunity to redeem myself someday, though that depends on me finding someone that will actually love me like that
yeah
I had a girl really like me for a bit
I bombed that too
I mean I never went as near as you went
heh caaaaause I'm still 14
:D
but yeah... she was smitten and I encouraged it
and I wished I didn't
cause now I have everyone asking "did you really like her?" "cause she liked you and whatever"
don't play someone else.... you'll get busted in the end
yep....and that's what's happening to brian...I hope he knows it and doesn't get sucked in and get hurt, though, I think he does know it, and is just playing along, for the physical benefits.....
yeah
wish I hadn't forgotten my meds last night, cause now that I'm off that sugar high, getting really low
what do you take?
50mg of zoloft and .5mg of Risperdal
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anti-depressent?
zoloft is, and risperdal is an antipsychotic, for the cutting...though, I cut myself real good on Sunday night....told my shrink, he still didn't change the dosage